King Solomon

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  About Anonymous they are working on things as we speak!

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  soldier 77 just posted this about two hours ago but i think his post got lost is the great debate and straw mans that another posters was throwing around.. anyway i hope soldier 77 does not mind if i make a thread from his insight.

  soldier 77 "this seems to have missed in the tangent argument going on: http://pastebin.com/3nitctlf.

  anonymous are needing some more people on the inside to help.

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  I saw an anonymous quote on twitter explaining why paste bin was deleted. Anonymous said they don't want watchtower monitoring their efforts.

  Yeah, that might've been something good to consider BEFORE starting the op?
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  Email from my grandmother yesterday.

  by elder-schmelder in

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  2. experiences

  here is an email that my grandmother sent me yesterday.. .

  shawn, it's very difficult & sad to come to this decision, but because of your attitude towards the truth & us personally (thinking that we are stupid) we're going to treat you as a disfellowshipped person from now on.

  actually, you're worse than them because usually they know they have not kept their oath to jehovah & don't speak abusively of the organization and don't turn apostate.

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  Leeza said:

  If she decides to be a faithful member of the JWs, just let her do so in peace, and with respect because she is only following her conscience.

  In your opinion, does following one's conscience justify his GM's outrageous behavior? Nuremburg war criminals claimed to be "only following orders": does that justify their acts?
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  Have you ever wondered why as Jehovah's Witnesses you ignored the inconsistencies, lies and hypocricies of the Watchtower's Governing Body for so long?

  by matt2414 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here are a few examples of what i overlooked for so long:.

  1. the watchtower often praised rutherford's 1918 talk "millions now living will never die.

  " however, everyone who had ever heard that talk was dead.. 2. the governing body urges the placement of the watchtower's "bible" literature with strangers.

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  Ding said:

  As long as a JW even thinks this MIGHT be true, he or she will ignore a lot of warning signs and suppress a lot of doubts.

  Here's to Moshe: sometimes all the WTBTS BS absolutely demands an equally-massive dosage of cold, hard truth to cut through the BS, to loosen the delusional thought processes...

  Moshe basically read many JWs minds, laying it all out on the open for them to read. Sometimes when people see their "private" (or so they think) internal dialogues laid out by someone else, it starts to dawn on them that maybe they're NOT so unique, not so clever..... "Heyyyy, could it be that this is all a scam....."?

  Blondie said:

  Because I thought I was choosing the lesser of two evils. That though imperfect, the WTS was the least evil among all religions. But it took awhile before I realized I was still choosing evil.

  I bet that's common, people thinking, "what else is there? Where would I go, if not here?"
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  I think people want to believe in an Armageddon

  by dgp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the end of the world (aka "this system of things") has been predicted to happen "soon" many times.

  in my own lifetime, and not being a jw, i have been warned that the world would end like six times already.

  harold camping predicted one end of the world twice only last year.

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  Cold Steel said:

  No, I cited scripture to win the argument (Ezekiel 38-39, Isaiah 11, Psalm 85, Zech. 12-14, Rev. 12-16). That preterists can do naught but insist they have found fulfillment shows they are in many ways deslusional.

  How cute, using the Bible to make psychological diagnoses, as if it were a DSM-IV, LOL!

  And someone who can type this:

  After awhile, you’ll see the wisdom of God in the prophetic guidance of the ancient apostles and prophets beginning to gel and within a year you’ll be wondering how you ever believed in the scriptural exegesis of the Watchtower Crowd!

  Lacks the self-awareness to say this:

  Yet Preterists confidently assert the reality of events that lack even a trace of substantiation. This must be classified as delusional thinking, and delusional thinking is one of the principal attributes of psychosis. (It would be saner to conclude that Jesus was plain wrong, but that’s an impossibility for them. Psychotics cannot let go of their delusion.)

  Tenacious?
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  What leads a person to think they are inspired by God?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there seems no end of people claiming to be inspired.

  there are numerous holy books claiming to have been handed to their writers by god.

  these days a person writing their own holy book is likely to be met with scepticism (unless you are a scientologist), so people tend to claim to be inspired to interpret older holy books.

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  Binadub said:

  I think it all depends on one's perception of "inspired". I tend to consider all of what we call "creative" to be inspired. I'm often amazed--even myself--when some kind of a good idea just seems to pop into my head for something good. I think good art, music and writing are inspired, and I tend to think it is something from an inner spirituality.

  The words you used (inspired and spirituality) are related, in that both contain the element 'spire'. Interesting, as someone says they were "inspired by Holy Spirit" is actually using a circular reference, and not even realizing it....

  But yeah, good point. There is a difference between claiming to be "inspired" vs "Divinely-inspired". Someone sees art and is inspired to create something else in the same style is correct to claim to be inspired; someone thinks they hear the voice of YHWH claims to be "Divinely-inspired".

  However, some play fast and loose with that definition, saying their being "inspired by God" refers to something more akin to the former usage, rather than the latter.

  Joey Jo-Jo said:

  One thing I learned in psychology is that we humans like to fool ourselves, the same goes with conspiracy theorists they look for patterns to suit their understandings.

  Yup, people have an incredibly strong need to FEEL like they understand things, even if they don't, or it can't be understood. Therefore, they will imagine all kinds of illogical mechanisms at work, just in order to feel they have some measure of control of their own fate, and to explain whatever phenomena it is that keeps them up at night.
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  The List of 21 changes in Policy are simply Mind-Blowing!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. sundays after field service: poker & cigars!!.

  2. plural wives are now allowed (but, only pretty young ones!).

  3. special silk robes for elders (and maybe fancy headgear).

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  Hate to break it to some of you, but someone's already done the Xian theme park idea with arkencounter.com, brought to you by Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis, the same folks behind the creation museum, in the greater Cincinnati, OH area. It looks to be a hoot, building a life-size (non-working) replica of everybody's fave ride, Noah's Ark (no word if it'll be located in Fantasyland)....

  Arkencounter.com
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  Have you ever wondered why as Jehovah's Witnesses you ignored the inconsistencies, lies and hypocricies of the Watchtower's Governing Body for so long?

  by matt2414 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here are a few examples of what i overlooked for so long:.

  1. the watchtower often praised rutherford's 1918 talk "millions now living will never die.

  " however, everyone who had ever heard that talk was dead.. 2. the governing body urges the placement of the watchtower's "bible" literature with strangers.

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  Moshe said:

  "And since JWs are the only one going d2d with this unique crackpot WT endtimes armageddon/paradise earth dogma (the Truth, in JW lingo), That proves that only JWs have the truth. JWs are so smug- only they got it right!!"

  Tell us how you REALLY feel, Moshe! Is my dunce cap on straight? ;)

  The good news (i mean, the TRULY TRUE good news) is that if you are reading this thread, you are the smartest of the bunch! You figured it out....

  Kinda feel sorry for the last ones to figure it out, showing up at the KH and looking around at an empty hall, asking "where'd everybody go?"
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  Shunned by an ex-jw

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was watching one of alun williams videos on youtube.

  i was a subscriber to his channel, that is until he blocked me completely due to one comment i made on his video watchtoweralert1---homosexuality.

  mind you this was the only comment i have ever made to any of his videos, most vids are your typical ex-jw info but he is now making videos specifically about the bible, one being about homosexuality, although still an ex-jw he appears to be still carrying a lot of jw luggage, for one he has just false propheticed the end, and he spoke against same sex intercourse.. being youtube he is entitled to do what ever he wants on is channel, however youtube is also place for discussion and debates and in no way was my post worth blocking, and being an ex-jw i expected him to know better.. what i posted was - i much rather see those outside the org, but really if you want to play that card you have a lot to answer for, for one circular reasoning.

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  Yeah, sad if an ex-JW.

  There's some pro-JW videos on YouTube where the posters seem to operate as unofficial channels for the WT organization, and don't tolerate any open and fair discussions; any comments slightly less than glowing are deleted, and users banned. I can't tell whether they're supported with funding from WTBTS or not...
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  I think people want to believe in an Armageddon

  by dgp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the end of the world (aka "this system of things") has been predicted to happen "soon" many times.

  in my own lifetime, and not being a jw, i have been warned that the world would end like six times already.

  harold camping predicted one end of the world twice only last year.

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  Cold Steel said:

  "I agree with the author of an article I read recently who stated that preterism is a form of mental illness."

  Wow, imagine that: someone accusing another person of mental illness to win an argument! :)
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  Why is this saying not included in JW wedding services?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so simple, yet it could have prevented so many broken marriages if someone had just said something.... .

  "therefore, if any man can show any just cause why they may not lawfully be joined together let him speak now or else hereafter forever hold his peace".

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  "Therefore, if any man can show any just cause why they may not lawfully be joined together let him speak now or else hereafter forever hold his peace"

  Are we going Levitical law here? I'm just asking, because let's say the groom had a crushed testicle: wouldn't that count as rendering him unfit for marriage?